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KoB and free players
« on: November 20, 2009, 08:58:46 pm »
If I understand correctly, free players can't get real armies, and can't rank up.

Military production:
1. Your starting town has heightened resource production, but can produce only the 4 most basic military units.
2. Additional towns can either be the resource type, or one of the 2 town types that gets advanced units. The other 2 types produce far less resources, but of course, you can funnel resources from your starting town.
3. ...except that you can't, as no resource transfers are allowed unless you're a paying player.

Rank:
1. As you move up in rank in your realm, you advance from peon to dignitary to royal, with royals making the actual decisions that affect the realm, as well as getting a free lamp every day.
2. The main way you earn realm points is to provide resources to weaker players in your realm - the most helpful players get to lead.
3. ...except that you can't, as you can't transfer resources on a free account.

Knowing both of these, what can someone who doesn't pay reasonably expect to do in this? You can't aim for rank, and you can't produce a real military at a rate that will matter, and well, there doesn't seem to be much else to the game.

Is there something I'm missing here, or is this really a subscription game with a free trial?
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Re: KoB and free players
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2009, 01:32:34 am »
you CAN transfer reasources to other towns its just u gotta have time inbetween it (traveling time) kinda like tribal wars

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Re: KoB and free players
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2009, 02:27:53 am »
I just noticed that - you can transfer by targeting a town on the map.

Yeah, that's actually a pretty minor advantage, since you can you can only produce resources so fast anyway.
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Re: KoB and free players
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2009, 04:04:18 pm »
Guys give me a couple more building days and ill start to send reinforcment troops to your villige's. start makeing spies to protect you for now and build warehouses to cover your resources for the period of time between game check's to stay of there farm radar's
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Re: KoB and free players
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2009, 08:21:29 pm »
Spies won't help - considering the guy who attacked me lost ~75% of his attacking force to take resources that wouldn't even cover 1/10th of that cost, he DEFINITELY didn't scout first.

I do have a decent warehouse shield up, which kept me from taking any serious resource loss, but he took out 400 swordsmen and some archers.
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Re: KoB and free players
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2009, 08:58:11 pm »
Spies won't help - considering the guy who attacked me lost ~75% of his attacking force to take resources that wouldn't even cover 1/10th of that cost, he DEFINITELY didn't scout first.

I do have a decent warehouse shield up, which kept me from taking any serious resource loss, but he took out 400 swordsmen and some archers.

Edit: I've been hit again. I now have 0 troops.
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Re: KoB and free players
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2009, 04:29:59 am »
i haven't quite been hit as hard as trerro has, but i needed to gloat as i was hit by a sub 50 rank player and smashed his attack.

11/23 @ 19:49 Attack Banzkarn attacked Galeesa Primus (V) Galeesa Village 1
 Banzkarn:   Swordsman   total - 236   died - 230   survived - 6 :)
Galeesa: 82 swordsmen dead and 173 survived... and for some reason blue hasn't touched me since, and my army is tiny :P
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So... this is what happens when you go on a cream pie craze and hop on chat :p
[clan]Galeesa: please take those pants off :p
[clan] HamsterishOne: ...really or in game :P
[clan] Galeesa: really
[clan] Galeesa: please take it off
[clan] Chrono64: okay
[clan] Chrono64: I took down the pants, yet it continues...
[clan] Galeesa: hehe
[clan] Galeesa: and he's just mad that he's still pulling cream out his nose :-p
[clan] Chrono64: I thought I got rid beyond the damn pants
[clan] Chrono64: XD
[clan] Chrono64: just wipe it along
[clan] Galeesa: ROFLMFAO!!!
[clan] HamsterishOne: ...I don't want to know why you just yelled out that you'd got 'it' off do I?
[clan] Chrono64: you'll just have sticky hands throughout one adventure
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Re: KoB and free players
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2009, 04:36:22 am »
right now there trying to goat the big 5 of are relm to try and wall them in your towns,giveing them the chance to attack the big 5 and gaim massive resoruces from a single strike. being in the rc ill gain 1 genine a day,usable to summon 700 swords at 1 time per :o as a member and rc ill have 2 so if you just build resources and warehouses for now "and yes i know thats boaring" in a few days time week top's i can give you a fortable defence to start off with
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Re: KoB and free players
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2009, 05:10:47 am »
i guess i can do that...also, i guess i missed his second attack which came after i responded seconds after his first attack... which caught him with no military units :) so he answered that with 10 pallys (: which he lost in the attack :P i like this guy :P
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So... this is what happens when you go on a cream pie craze and hop on chat :p
[clan]Galeesa: please take those pants off :p
[clan] HamsterishOne: ...really or in game :P
[clan] Galeesa: really
[clan] Galeesa: please take it off
[clan] Chrono64: okay
[clan] Chrono64: I took down the pants, yet it continues...
[clan] Galeesa: hehe
[clan] Galeesa: and he's just mad that he's still pulling cream out his nose :-p
[clan] Chrono64: I thought I got rid beyond the damn pants
[clan] Chrono64: XD
[clan] Chrono64: just wipe it along
[clan] Galeesa: ROFLMFAO!!!
[clan] HamsterishOne: ...I don't want to know why you just yelled out that you'd got 'it' off do I?
[clan] Chrono64: you'll just have sticky hands throughout one adventure
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Re: KoB and free players
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2009, 11:07:55 am »
Haha, nice one Gal :)
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Re: KoB and free players
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2009, 07:59:34 pm »
could anyone help me out with Banzkarn? he's continually attacking me, not near as much as other are attacked, but it's a pain in the rear to have to restock my swords and it's not like he's gotten any resources off me. Most of my warehouses are at lvl 6 and my resources never get above 170K :P

Edit:
So between Banzkarn and Jooger i have decided to quit making military troops and focus entirely on warehouses and resources since i can't seem to ever hold more than 200 units before one or the other wipes them out.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2009, 04:52:52 am by Galeesa »
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So... this is what happens when you go on a cream pie craze and hop on chat :p
[clan]Galeesa: please take those pants off :p
[clan] HamsterishOne: ...really or in game :P
[clan] Galeesa: really
[clan] Galeesa: please take it off
[clan] Chrono64: okay
[clan] Chrono64: I took down the pants, yet it continues...
[clan] Galeesa: hehe
[clan] Galeesa: and he's just mad that he's still pulling cream out his nose :-p
[clan] Chrono64: I thought I got rid beyond the damn pants
[clan] Chrono64: XD
[clan] Chrono64: just wipe it along
[clan] Galeesa: ROFLMFAO!!!
[clan] HamsterishOne: ...I don't want to know why you just yelled out that you'd got 'it' off do I?
[clan] Chrono64: you'll just have sticky hands throughout one adventure
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Re: KoB and free players
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2009, 03:13:23 pm »
OK guy's this is a brief of what im going to say at the meeting.

Gal you hit the nail on the head

everyone stop building troops,build warehouse's building's and men to run them. I want everyone to cf that is being farmed in about 4 day's for a minum of 30 hour's. At witch time i want everyone to have a warehouse x2 one for food and one for gold at atleast level 8! im gonna help support these with resource's. if you dont have 500 peaset's yet get them.

When you cf i want you to have barrecks enough to build 2500 swords all at one time in your que and the food and gold income to support them. i want to get your resources built up to 10k a hour if there not allready and i want to get you guy's a stale built to handel 300 mounted. at the end of the cease fire i want you all to have 2500 swords,300 sultans and enough warehouse's to protect all your resource's. im gonna supply the ra members with there sultans first and then work my way up the chain slowly.  this is only a short post of the meeting that will be help satuerday. look of the thread on kob and at least post for clip note's if you cant make it,this will help us in the long run get in well with the realm and establish are ra guild with in the game
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Re: KoB and free players
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2009, 05:48:30 pm »
Done that Shaun. No need to cf when all the resources are safe. I got five warehouses all level seven right now and ready to make my next town/fort/castle. Just want a bit of free time so we can both discuss it while I do it.
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Re: KoB and free players
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2009, 06:15:18 pm »
Screw the swordies, I'm getting a mil spirit, putting a castle up and getting the better defenders.
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« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2009, 03:51:00 am »
the cf is for undisturbed building of troops,instead of massing a couple hudred they will have to contend with a couple thousand, and yes get to 1mill spirt and join the cluster. you get a huge bouns for defence in the cluster and being so close we can all protect each other
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