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General Forums => CC General Discussion => Topic started by: Trerro on February 06, 2010, 11:01:21 pm

Title: CC logo
Post by: Trerro on February 06, 2010, 11:01:21 pm
We definitely need a new logo, so let's discuss what the new one should look like.

Some ideas:
1. It should be something cool to look at. We want people clicking it in forum sigs, and it should help make a good first impression of our site.
2. There needs to be a picture of something... there isn't an obvious creature type like there was for the RA, but chaos is pretty broad, so there's a lot of ways this can go. Alternatively, we can always just throw a warsquirrel in there.
3. It should probably mention our multifaceted thingie - I'm thinking "community, knowledge, silliness" would cover it.
4. If people still want the Latin, maybe "arcani et sciuri" in a ribbon at the bottom or somesuch. I like the idea of a Latin motto that sounds fancy until you translate it and facepalm... but at the same time, a lot of people won't translate it and will think we're trying to be elitist or somesuch... so I'm mixed on whether to include this.
5. The overall thing should probably be a seal, a coat of arms, or some kind of unified whole. I think a seal would actually be slightly better than a coat as the community, knowledge, silliness could then form the outer ring of the seal, and it's easier to get a creature of some kind in there.

Post suggestions here, and if you're an artist and willing to actually make the logo, this would also be a good place to throw drafts - even if it's a 3 minute MS Paint job that simply shows us what would go where in the final version, that would help use choose.
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: Bman21212 on February 06, 2010, 11:12:06 pm
Latin is ok, we are elitist after all ;).  Maybe we can have our slogan in english at the top, and latin at the bottom.

As for our logo, I think a coat of arms thing maybe? I don't know, I kind of like logo we have now, with a phoenix that's also a person.  Doing something symbolic like that would be nice.

As an example, the Presbyterian Church has a cool logo.
(http://www.davidairey.com/images/logos/presbyterian-logo-2.gif)
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: oddblob :) on February 07, 2010, 10:23:10 am
we did kind of have a phoenix and a person in the last one, as there was a person inside the phoenix.

i like the idea of the latin, and english at the top

although ive got no ideas for what animal, however i think we should stay away from obscure animals go with a cow or horse, OR go for mythical beasts like the phoenix... maybe a unicorn or a minator.

Edit: possibly a hydra from Greek mythology, cause the 5/7 heads could represent the community
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: Bman21212 on February 10, 2010, 03:55:24 pm
We should get a temp logo going soon. Chaos Cluster with an RA logo just looks weird. Any descriptions/shoddy paint jobs describing what you want?

Here's a random something I made when I was bored in class.
(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/79/24938940.png)
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: oddblob :) on February 10, 2010, 05:24:28 pm
ive made a very rough Coat of arms for the ideas i said in my last post..i only used images of google image serch, microsoft word and paint (only to save it as an image) so its not perfect :)

(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu57/odd_blob/CClogorough.png)
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: Bman21212 on February 10, 2010, 08:28:02 pm
Nice, good start oddblob.
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: oddblob :) on February 10, 2010, 09:29:44 pm
cheers mate, your is cool..nice and simple, sometimes simple is best :)
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: Aamer on February 11, 2010, 05:02:04 am
hahahahahahhaahahhaa you guys make me laugh. i like your picture full of unicorns and hydras but is that really the message we want to send out? unicorns and hydras.... man... that had me cracking up.

i like your general idea a lot bman. maybe we can jazz it up a bit more but i really like the classy look of it. maybe instead of the center being black is got a something popping out of it. and the background also have something. but that in the middle would be really cool

ps- im not trying to rip on your thing blob, it just threw me a bit :p
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: Bman21212 on February 11, 2010, 07:28:08 am
Oh yea, something in the center would be cool.  I don't really have any emotional attachment to it, so feel free to mess around with it if you want.  I was just trying to do something with the double C that was different from things I had seen before, and I was bored in class haha.  Oh rambling professors....
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: pilz on February 11, 2010, 12:53:37 pm
How about maybe not jazzing it up too much, you know these days how less is more?
Possibly choose two more colours, and we can have a go at making it a gif or something with the two Cs rotating?
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: oddblob :) on February 11, 2010, 02:31:02 pm
oh god no, spinning C's would make me feel sick, but yea im liking the idea of something coming out of the middle

and, dont worry aamer, i was just throwing ideas around :)
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: Trerro on February 11, 2010, 10:28:55 pm
The C makes me think of this:
http://creativecommons.org/
and black circled C's in general are pretty widely recognized as the copyright symbol.

I think we need something in between the super simple (like the C) and the way too busy (like blob's).
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: Aamer on February 12, 2010, 03:28:19 am
i think everyone is one the same page. black wouldnt work, obvi.  and it needs some busyness to it
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: Aamer on February 12, 2010, 03:56:08 am
so hows this?
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: Bman21212 on February 12, 2010, 04:21:13 pm
The color makes me think of a construction site, but yea that's a decent general idea Aamer.
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: Aamer on February 13, 2010, 07:42:05 pm
yeah, i hope you know that was a 5 minute paint redoof the logo..just ot show it with more color and busyness so it wouldnt look so much like what trerro said
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: Bman21212 on February 13, 2010, 10:19:01 pm
Right, I figured so much.  I like the concept, having a mascot come out of the middle + color.  What should our mascot be?
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: oddblob :) on February 13, 2010, 11:49:13 pm
well, its usually a war squirrel isn't it?
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: Aamer on February 19, 2010, 07:33:44 am
http://www.latimes.com/ct-met-kass-0217-20100217,0,5490895,full.column

important link... i think this is our new creature mascot thing.. can someone render a blob-fish?
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: oddblob :) on February 19, 2010, 10:50:22 am
sorry...but i HAVE to have that as my profile picture :P it just works
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: Bman21212 on March 18, 2010, 04:08:11 pm
So my hackjob at a logo is here.  We really need to get working on making a semi-official one.  The RA logo just looks wrong for our name.
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: The_Black_Assalant on March 23, 2010, 07:12:31 am
here is my 2 cent's on the logo thing. I think a version of the double c's with the names of the founding father's of ra/cc walking around the out side of it,with a squirl coming out the center with a bad attuide a cigar and a Huge wepon of some CC creation would be something to triffel with. yea at 2 am my juices are flowing  :o
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: Trerro on March 26, 2010, 08:52:15 am
I started playing with 2 interlocking Cs on the left inside a circle... and then realized if I turn my head to the side, I get the freaking McDonalds logo... so no go on this one. (Ignore the pink, that's supposed to be the transparent part.)

Edit: I has an idea! Why not take the words Chaos Cluster, with the Chaos on top of the Cluster. Then have a warsquirrel either leaning back on the sign or sitting on the C in cluster, depending on arrangement, pressing a button on a remote control. To the right of this we have the remote releasing something (Iggy suggest butterflies for the famous reference of a butterfly flapping its wings affecting all sorts of crap in chaos theory.) Put a small "community, knowledge, silliness" under this and I think we'd have something decent. It wouldn't be nearly as busy as blob's, wouldn't just be a copyright/creative commons logo, and would be wide enough to work up where that phoenix is now.
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: oddblob :) on March 26, 2010, 04:19:10 pm
i like the idea off the interlocking C's, and the squirrel and butterflys, so, i bogged this together on ms word and paint

(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu57/odd_blob/CClogo2.png)

i couldn't get the butterfly's, so i did a sword instead
the green can be transparent if wanted
and the Community, Knowledge, Silliness could be a bit small to read and did warp properly, but other than that
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: The_Black_Assalant on March 27, 2010, 01:52:29 am
my art really blow's  :D i tried for a few box c's on thru the other went to color it and 2 year old LOL so you are the man trerro
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: Bman21212 on April 01, 2010, 04:43:51 am
This is the Creative Commons logo, just fyi.
(http://mirrors.creativecommons.org/presskit/logos/cc.logo.large.png)




These are some CC logos with interlocking Cs I found on the first two pages of google images "CC logo" search (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=cc+logo).  That's why I was initially not going for the interlocking Cs.
(http://www.centennial.org/CCLogo02.GIF)
(http://www.nwf.org.au/projects/CC%20logo.jpg)

I wasn't initially high on the interlocking Cs, because it appeared that many other groups did that.  However, the overlaping Cs might work.
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: ZeroTigress on May 17, 2010, 05:16:01 am
That's... about as coat of arms as I can get with squirrels... :|

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/DarkAznTigress/84a741a7.jpg)

Alternatively...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/DarkAznTigress/38c80bd3.jpg)

(I have no idea what I drew. I just thought Chaos Cluster and this was what my hand produced.) Feel free to poke fun at them!


EDIT: Don't want to double-post so I'll just amend this one.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/DarkAznTigress/4fca0929.jpg)

I was thinking of making some of the letters explode instead, but a laser beam just seems more silly. :p
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: Trerro on May 17, 2010, 07:18:12 pm
That looks quite good. :)

It gets the name out there, it does something cool without being excessive, and it gets the squirrel in there nicely without ending up huge. :) It should also scale down well if it needs to be used in a forum that only allows really tiny sigs. I also like the thin laser part, which besides being awesomely silly, leaves a large blank area for people looking to customize it for a forum sig (as well as the option to simply cut the laser off anywhere to make room to put something to the right of it) - I'll probably put my RO characters above it and some info below for instance.

It definitely needs a bit of recoloring to replace that RA banner up there, but that's likely just a background fill.
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: ZeroTigress on May 17, 2010, 10:19:09 pm
The only issue I have with it is that the red button the squirrel is pressing isn't very noticeable. Makes it look like it's holding a cane all British-like. (Which may or may not be appropriately silly.) If you guys want to roll with that, I can easily add a bowl hat or something to the squirrel. Although all that detail will get lost once it's shrunken so I'll try what I can to balance it out.

I'm thinking of making it so the squirrel is pressing one of those Staples easy buttons, but I'm afraid it'll come out looking like the squirrel is just touching a big red jawbreaker or something. :\

What sizes do you want for a forum banner and a forum signature? I'll be able to do some better tinkering if I know what resolutions to aim for.
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: oddblob :) on May 19, 2010, 09:39:45 pm
im British..ill think you'll find we dont wear bowler hats and walk around with sticks but hey that would be a cool idea to try out.......plus, that adds brillient sillyness to it

the staples easy button idea...hum, i think anything that the squirl has is going to get lost when its scaled down because of the size of the squirl

at the front of the laser there is a large white space...you could but the squirl there and a button there as well, possibly with the words fire above, just so people understand what the squirl is doing...just a suggestion
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: Trerro on May 20, 2010, 02:22:09 am
The only issue I have with it is that the red button the squirrel is pressing isn't very noticeable. Makes it look like it's holding a cane all British-like. (Which may or may not be appropriately silly.) If you guys want to roll with that, I can easily add a bowl hat or something to the squirrel. Although all that detail will get lost once it's shrunken so I'll try what I can to balance it out.

I'm thinking of making it so the squirrel is pressing one of those Staples easy buttons, but I'm afraid it'll come out looking like the squirrel is just touching a big red jawbreaker or something. :\

What sizes do you want for a forum banner and a forum signature? I'll be able to do some better tinkering if I know what resolutions to aim for.

For the main forum banner, if you scroll to the top, you'll see a rising alliance banner that we need to replace (The Rising Alliance was our old name - if you're curious as to why we changed it, a thread in announcements explains it, or you can just XFire me). I'm pretty sure the forum skin is built to stretch, so it doesn't have to be that exact size, and it can of course be a bit wider, but it should be somewhere around there.

For a forum sig, those dimensions should be ok... maybe a bit less on the height, although if I clip the whitespace off the top and bottom, I think *most* people would be ok with that for a sig size.

For the coat of arms, the main place for that is on the front page, so it needs to fit into the left column. 350 is probably a good max width, just because somebody somewhere is still on 800 X 600. Height can be around 500ish.

As for the red button, you could probably add a black thingie with a few lights so it looks more a like a control panel kinda thingie, or maybe have him pull a level or somesuch.
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: ZeroTigress on June 09, 2010, 10:03:55 pm
im British..ill think you'll find we dont wear bowler hats and walk around with sticks but hey that would be a cool idea to try out.......plus, that adds brillient sillyness to it

I'm sorry if I offended you. :( Monty Python and Mary Poppins flash into my head whenever I think of the word British.

I guess I could put a bowler hat on the squirrel and see how that turns out. ^^;

As for the red button, you could probably add a black thingie with a few lights so it looks more a like a control panel kinda thingie, or maybe have him pull a level or somesuch.

Hmm, a lever might actually work better. I'll try a version with a control panel as well. I was just afraid that with a control panel the C would end up looking like a G. (The squirrel doesn't really have that effect since it's a different color from the letter.)

Thanks for the critiques!
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: oddblob :) on June 13, 2010, 01:55:58 pm
Quote
I'm sorry if I offended you.  Monty Python and Mary Poppins flash into my head whenever I think of the word British.

ahh dont wory, you didn't offend me..it takes a lot to offend me if your trying to via my nationality.....that make sense?

and, Monty python is brilliant :)
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: Galeesa on September 24, 2010, 04:50:13 pm
has anyone thought of using Rocky from rocky and bullwinkle? just an idea but, hey the more ideas, the better the final outcome :p
Title: Re: CC logo
Post by: The_Black_Assalant on September 25, 2010, 02:03:33 am
Well since the idea of chaos cluster is organized chaos,what about a atom smashing creating the CC logo.  an animation style one,though probably complicated would be awesome,  And maybe a clip playing with the under it in a deep voice saying something like "in the beginning,A lone squirl  had a dream "que rev noise" BOOM Chaos cluster was created  :o  ok so im tired,but that would be unbelivable