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Title: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Galeesa on October 29, 2009, 03:42:19 pm
Just out of curiosity... is anyone interested in doing another Hobopolis run? i've kinda blown my funds on caustic nodules and need to lvl up a bit so i can handle +720 ML a bit easier. it's not the slimes... it's the effect that's killing me <_< . As it is... i have to heal every 4-3 turns and i'm using a chamoix every turn :P
So, if you're interested in doing a Hobo run... post here so I know if we have enough interest to open it or not :P
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: GPH on October 29, 2009, 08:58:27 pm
I think I've decided to try and get the level 30 DB trophy, mostly because I'm too lazy to ascend for the time being but I feel like I need to have some sort of aim to keep myself adventuring :P

So I'll have the turns to burn. Although as I demonstrated last run with my low damage output and inability to dodge the hobos DB isn't such a great choice so don't be expecting great things from me :P

Edit - would you actually want to try for a speed run or would we just be going through it like we did last time?
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Trerro on October 30, 2009, 12:04:22 am
I'm still stuck in HC, but once I get through that, sure, I can jump in with HC oxy gear... which hopefully actually helps. I have no idea how hobopolis works yet.
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Tyred on October 30, 2009, 01:08:33 am
El Juan is always ready for a Hobo run. If we aren't going for speed, that's probably best. I don't think we have nearly the capacity to do a quick run yet.

Also, Gal, the +720 ML slime damage is based on your total HP, and is always a percentage of that. Therefore, it doesn't matter how much you level, you will always be burning through Hp restorers. That's why it was going to be really tough through all that crap.

Anyway, let me know what will be going down, I've got turns to burn too!
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Galeesa on October 30, 2009, 01:13:05 am
we certainly won't be trying a speed run... i don't think we're anywhere close being ready for that, but i think that we have the numbers we had last time we ran it... so i'll be opening the sewers in the next few days most likely... probably tonight after rollover
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: GPH on October 30, 2009, 11:51:11 am
Started going through the sewers today before I realised that I only actually had 3 areas in my hobo binder :P Think I managed to get most of the ones currently available to me so I should be able to make a proper start tomorrow :)

Edit - also do you want some meat towards the cost of the nodules and opening the hobopolis gal? I've only got a couple of mil on hand at the moment but I can probably scrape together quite a bit more if I actually went through my inventory so don't worry that you'll be clearing me out :P
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Tyred on November 03, 2009, 06:52:22 pm
Now that I can run more +item gear on the bosses (upwards of 300%), we'll probably get more out of the bosses, and therefore the costs can be neutralized slightly.

Now, once I get Tyred_Soul out of the BM loop, I will be getting through some softcore runs for some relaxation, and in doing so, I will be able to craft and smith and do whatever else for the sewer items. These we can sell for the clan in the mall to recoup some of our losses. The craftable things sell quite well, especially to clans that are all about the speed runs and need each item to pass the tests.

That being said, I also try and get the 10k stuff from each zone if possible.

Tyred
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: GPH on November 03, 2009, 07:15:43 pm
Quote
That being said, I also try and get the 10k stuff from each zone if possible.

Note: don't do that in the ice zone. I did for a few turns til I actually looked up what the frozen banquet did and how much it sold for :P I'd have been better off taking the frozen banquets, selling them and giving the proceeds to the clan by far <_<

Also, I was feeling kind of chuffed being able to run +180% items on the normal enemies (I got my soft shoes btw :)), you running +300% on the bosses makes me feel bad :P

Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Manny Cotti on November 04, 2009, 01:11:08 am
Hobopolis has kept me pretty busy -- I've been at work killing hobos in the hopes of getting the zones and stuff unlocked, in the mean time gathering hobo bits here for scarehobos and there and the occasional clearing out the pathway to the bosses.

However, I do have one small request... and I'm kinda sorry for asking this, but when and IF someone other than me kills Frosty... may I call dibs on the arm, or are there other plans for that?
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: GPH on November 04, 2009, 01:58:20 am
Pretty sure everyone is gonna be wanting the arm if it drops :P We probably do need to sort out some kind of officialish system for deciding who gets drops.

Ratio equal to turns spent with every person getting one before people start getting multiples? So if A spends 551 turns, B spends 1217 turns and C spends 724 turns is 22%:49%:29% or around 1:2.5:1.5

Cept in that example I'd be inclined to give each person equal and the person who spent the most turns just gets first choice.

Or we could just do a lottery system if there's an item more than one person happens to want :P
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Manny Cotti on November 04, 2009, 02:21:35 am
Heh, I made the request on the assumption that pretty much already everyone else had gotten all the hobo gear. Whoops!

But I don't see much of a problem with the former system, to be honest. There is one small thing I would like to add, though -- if the person has received the item on a previous Hobopolis run and can not actually make use of another one, then he or she shouldn't be eligible to receive another one. IMO, that's hoarding items that other clan members could definitely make use of.

I doubt that'll be a problem, really, but just in case it does happen. =P
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Tyred on November 04, 2009, 02:38:28 pm
Welcome to the forums, Manny!

Anyway, regarding all the loot and whatnot, here's how our last run broke down:

We had only three people really able to dungeon-dive: Galeesa, GPH, and me (El Juan). El Juan (my multi) essentially beat every boss except for Chester, because Hamster decided to get a good whack at it. Back then, I (he) was only a level 23 sauceror or so. Now I'm almost Lvl 31 on that, so things were tougher. The loot we got (as little as there was, because I couldn't handle a whole lot) was divided mostly between Galeesa and GPH. I took the sauceror stuff because that is my exclusive character and I will not ascend with El Juan again. So, Ol' Scratch's stuff mostly went to me, and I divided everything else on lines drawn from ascension history. The Hoboverlord gear was divided between Gal and GPH also, with El Jaun getting nothing on that one.

Essentially, El Juan is running the dungeons for fun and profit, as best he (I) can, and dividing most of the loot for everyone else. The sauceror stuff I have a particular want for, since that is my class. The Hoboverlord stuff is REALLY nice, but I wasn't going to be selfish enough to claim hobo stuff for a multi. I just took the crap no one else wanted.

Now that we have four people (three really) runninng the dungeon, things will get a bit more complicated, but I'm sure we can work something out like GPH said. I do agree with your point about "hoarding" items though. But that won't be a problem for a while. We're noobs at this.

Someday, we hope to have enough cash to run these dungeons more often, but they are expensive to start, that is for sure.

Tyred
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Galeesa on November 05, 2009, 04:37:21 am
as far as the outfit items go... i think tyred has a piece of ol scratch, i have a piece of the dire drifters, and gph has a piece of chesty's and i honestly don't remember where anything else went :P

so who wants the pitchfork :P   (:
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: GPH on November 12, 2009, 12:08:15 pm
Yay for neverending soda :P

Also, yay for discovering the joys of funkslinging divine noise makers with cheaply buffed muscle :P Chester was still annoying to beat but nothing a handful of bandages couldn't solve :)

Edit - I was mildly amused by the drops though...I was forced to have a lower +item% fighting Chester due to my inability to win with items, yet I got three of his items and only two for the others. I suppose this was balanced by getting the skill books for Zombo and Oscus but not Chester. If only El Juan had been an Accordion Thief :P The Ballad on its own is worth 500k apparently so unless someone plans on making a perm high level accordion thief it seems selling it and putting the money into the clan store is the best option. Anyone want to claim it before I put it up for sale or want to convince me that we should keep hold of it for now?

If anyone wants prelude to precision they're welcome to it as well but thats only worth a few k so it'll prolly just sit in my inventory otherwise :P


Edit edit - It did just occur to me that I started a multi a while ago which I intended to use to meat farm to put into the clan store but got lazy and gave up, but turning it into an accordion thief for buffing people doing hobopolis may well be a somewhat decent idea. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Tyred on November 13, 2009, 05:00:01 pm
I like the idea. El Juan was supposed to be a bot of sorts too, but is more just a character who can provide sauceror buffs and food for exceptionally cheap whenever I actually get on him. Having another multi to do all the accordian theif buffs would be extremely helpful. If you are willing, doing a run with that character as a pastamancer first to perm the +25% MP boost would be good, but not necessary. Otherwise, just powerleveling an accordian thief to a good level could give you something else to do.

Sidenote: Do not put yourself and your multi in a dungeon instance at the same time. That is something the admins are quite adamant about banning on. If it's just a buffing character, that's fine. Use mafia and get into the ballroom and press auto-adventure!

Also, since I haven't been on KoL with El Juan in a few days, how is Hobopolis going? Sounds like Frosty, Ol' Scratch and Chester are all down, at the very least. Anyone else taken a boss down that I haven't seen yet?

Tyred
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: GPH on November 13, 2009, 11:34:29 pm
I took Zombo and Oscus down too, mostly just to see if I could. Wasn't actually too hard in the end once I realised I could funksling them to death. Zombo nearly killed me because I didn't think to buff my muscle extra before I started so I didn't have much health, plus I could only funksling one damaging item a turn as I needed one to stop him stealing my clothes :P

Oscus worried me with the ever increasing stench damage but in the end was pretty easy...I just buffed muscle using all the cheapest ones I could and was doing over 1600 damage a turn so he didn't get a chance to cause significant hurt before he died :)

Edit - All done. Hodgman dropped 3 flasks which I'll sell and put the meat into the clan store when I get round to it. He also dropped the fortress plans. I can't see them being particularly useful to any of our non-ascendy characters so I'll prolly do the same with that unless anyone wants to claim it for a specific reason. Other than that, time to start dividing up the loot :P
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Tyred on November 16, 2009, 11:17:29 pm
Congratulations to GPH for taking down Hodgman! And here I thought I was going to get the chance to do it again!

But seriously, congratulations to the whole clan, we got this run done quick! Much appreciation goes out to everyone for getting into the dungeon. Things get more fun when we have more people. And, as we all get more organized and start leveling, we might even have a crack at getting all the way through in one day for some real goodies sooner or later.

But yeah, great teamwork, everyone! This is a first for us!

Someone figure out loot distribution. All I want is the Ash Can.

Tyred
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: GPH on November 17, 2009, 10:07:49 am
I just wanted to see if I could. I'll prolly leave it to you in future seeing as I had to spend a not inconsiderable amount on buffs and items to do it :P

I did buy two miniborg destroy-o-bots as well so that I could carry on killing hobos with the same +item bonus without overkilling them which was starting to be a problem. For anyone who doesn't have some I'd say they're well worth the investment. I can see funkslinging and them making the first few levels of an ascension much easier. Of course thats only in softcore :)

As for loot - in order of preference I probably want the hat, the neverending soda, zombos ring, frostys sack, garbage sticker, muscle shirt, chesters cutoffs, dumpster waders, infernal pitchfork, medallion, old silk hat, zombos shield. If El Juan is only having one item (sure you don't want the neverending soda too? :P) thats means the rest of us get 4 items. If you want one of the same top 4 as me then we'll work something out :)
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Tyred on November 17, 2009, 01:11:24 pm
El Juan needs very little. All I ask is that I get to kill of Ol' Scratch each time to get my goodies. As a sauceror, those are really the only things of worth to me.

In the event we ever get Frosty's arm, then there will be a fight, I'm sure.
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Galeesa on November 17, 2009, 05:56:45 pm
The only things that really pull my interest are the porkpie hat, old silk hat, and zombo's shield. That's mostly because i have one piece in the outfit and i'd like to try and complete them so i can use the uber skills in hobopolis soon (: zap! :P
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Tyred on November 21, 2009, 07:50:21 pm
Do we want to distribute loot based on th amount of work put in? I have a spreadsheet that will help with distribution levels for everyone. As it stands, GPH would get 5, Gal would get 4, and Manny would get 3. El Juan would only get Ol' Scratch's hat. All other loot would be distributed to the rest of you. Is everyone fine with that, or would you prefer an even distrubtion other than myself?

If I don't get responses within 3 days, I will distribute based on what I have outlined above.

Tyred
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Galeesa on November 21, 2009, 10:36:29 pm
that works for me, but my only question would be what would be going where :P
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: GPH on November 22, 2009, 11:36:28 am
I sent a message in game to Manny telling him to come claim what he wants but it says he hasn't logged in KoL in a week so hopefully he'll get it before your deadline :P

Difficult to start dividing stuff up til we know what he wants :/
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Tyred on November 22, 2009, 01:25:03 pm
I figure I would go class-specific for him, as well as things that did not require class. Maybe the pitchfork :P.
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Tyred on November 25, 2009, 08:58:29 pm
Ok, I screwed up and gave GPH one too many an item. GPH, please decide which one you want to part with and give it to Gal. Everything else should be well-accounted for.

Tyred
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Galeesa on November 25, 2009, 09:22:50 pm
i'm pretty sure that all those items are non-tradeable :P so don't worry about it. the pieces i got all went to outfits i had anyway (:
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: GPH on November 26, 2009, 10:50:07 am
We shaved a whole 196 turns off our last run...speed run here we come! :P

You can just have an extra item next run Gal and I'll have one less :)
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Tyred on November 26, 2009, 02:38:17 pm
Can't you gift one?

If not, I apologize. I failz0r.

Tyred
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: GPH on November 26, 2009, 10:06:17 pm
Can't seem to no.

Part of the allure of these items is that fact that you do actually have to earn them the old fashioned way, you can't just buy them :P
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Galeesa on December 14, 2009, 07:26:52 pm
Anyone down for another run? Or would you rather have a cooldown period before we open her up again :P
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: GPH on December 14, 2009, 07:40:08 pm
Well we can open it...I anticipate spending all my turns in Crimbo related activities the moment I can though so I don't know how much I'll contribute until after Christmas :P
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Tyred on December 14, 2009, 10:58:55 pm
I'm usually down for another run, but let's skip over the holidays before we do another. I've got all sorts of people coming through the revolving door at my house this year!

Tyred
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Galeesa on December 14, 2009, 11:22:30 pm
sounds like a plan. that's what i figured the response to be anyway :p
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Cztram on December 15, 2009, 05:01:08 am
I'm up for it :P even though i suck at the game lol just lemme know when its happening and im in
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Galeesa on December 15, 2009, 08:17:13 pm
It'll probably be sometime in january after all the holiday stuffs are over. :)
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Tyred on August 31, 2010, 10:17:34 pm
Ok, who has got what loot? I'd like to distribute this without pissing people off...
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: GPH on September 02, 2010, 09:45:39 am
Scratch

Ol' Scratch's ash can [X]
Ol' Scratch's infernal pitchfork
Ol' Scratch's manacles
Ol' Scratch's ol' britches [X]
Ol' Scratch's stove door [X]
Ol' Scratch's stovepipe hat [X]

Frosty

Frosty's arm [X 1]
Frosty's carrot [X]
Frosty's iceball
Frosty's nailbat [X]
Frosty's old silk hat
Frosty's snowball sack [X]

Oscus

Oscus's dumpster waders
Oscus's flypaper pants
Oscus's garbage can lid
Oscus's neverending soda [X]
Oscus's pelt [X]
Wand of Oscus [X]

Zombo

Zombo's eye [X]
Zombo's grievous greaves
Zombo's shield [X]
Zombo's shoulder blade
Zombo's skull ring [X]
Zombo's skullcap

Chester

Chester's Aquarius medallion
Chester's bag of candy [X]
Chester's cutoffs [X]
Chester's moustache [X]
Chester's muscle shirt [X]
Chester's sunglasses [X]

Hodgman

Hodgman's bow tie
Hodgman's porkpie hat [X]
Hodgman's lobsterskin pants
Hodgman's almanac
Hodgman's lucky sock [X]
Hodgman's metal detector [X]
Hodgman's varcolac paw
Hodgman's harmonica [X]
Hodgman's garbage sticker [X]
Hodgman's cane
Hodgman's whackin' stick
Hodgman's disgusting technicolor overcoat
Hodgman's imaginary hamster

Or in summary:

Ol' Scratch's ol' britches
Ol' Scratch's stovepipe hat
Ol' Scratch's stove door
Ol' Scratch's ash can
Frosty's arm (1)
Frosty's snowball sack
Frosty's nailbat
Frosty's carrot
Oscus's neverending soda
Oscus's pelt
Wand of Oscus
Zombo's skull ring
Zombo's empty eye
Zombo's shield
Chester's bag of candy
Chester's cutoffs
Chester's moustache
Chester's muscle shirt
Chester's sunglasses
Hodgman's lucky sock
Hodgman's metal detector
Hodgman's harmonica
Hodgman's garbage sticker
Hodgman's porkpie hat
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Galeesa on September 02, 2010, 10:08:24 pm
GPH's set up looked pretty organized... So I think i'll follow suit :P

Scratch

Ol' Scratch's ash can
Ol' Scratch's infernal pitchfork
Ol' Scratch's manacles
Ol' Scratch's ol' britches
Ol' Scratch's stove door
Ol' Scratch's stovepipe hat

Frosty

Frosty's arm
Frosty's carrot [X]
Frosty's iceball
Frosty's nailbat
Frosty's old silk hat [X]
Frosty's snowball sack

Oscus

Oscus's dumpster waders
Oscus's flypaper pants
Oscus's garbage can lid
Oscus's neverending soda
Oscus's pelt
Wand of Oscus

Zombo

Zombo's eye
Zombo's grievous greaves [X]
Zombo's shield [X]
Zombo's shoulder blade
Zombo's skull ring
Zombo's skullcap

Chester

Chester's Aquarius medallion
Chester's bag of candy
Chester's cutoffs
Chester's moustache
Chester's muscle shirt
Chester's sunglasses

Hodgman

Hodgman's bow tie
Hodgman's porkpie hat [X]
Hodgman's lobsterskin pants [X]
Hodgman's almanac
Hodgman's lucky sock
Hodgman's metal detector
Hodgman's varcolac paw
Hodgman's harmonica
Hodgman's garbage sticker
Hodgman's cane
Hodgman's whackin' stick
Hodgman's disgusting technicolor overcoat
Hodgman's imaginary hamster

Or in summary:

Frosty's carrot
Frosty's old silk hat
Zombo's shield
Zombo's grievous greaves
Hodgman's porkpie hat
Hodgman's lobsterskin pants
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: GPH on September 27, 2010, 10:28:25 pm
Yay for a Frostys arm drop :D
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Tyred on October 03, 2010, 03:08:11 pm
Here are my calculations


Player    Hobopolis    Hot    Cold    Stench    Spooky    Sleaze    Bosses?    Total        Item Dist
Galeesa    309    0    0    0    0    0    6    429    7.0%    0.6
GPH    941    0    417    0    0    0    0    1441.4    23.5%    1.9
Tyred    1748    431    0    448    583    496    0    4097.6    66.9%    5.4
This is based on kills in hobopolis. Accordingly, it would grant Gal 1 item, GPH 2 items, and me 5.

You guys can decide what you want. I can send the spreadsheet if necessary.
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: GPH on October 03, 2010, 04:41:09 pm
I am amused you went to the effort of constructing a spreadsheet :P

My order of desiriness is as follows:

Frosty's arm
Hodgman's bow tie
Frosty's nailbat
Ol' Scratch's stovepipe hat
Zombo's skullcap
Oscus's dumpster waders

And don't want at all because I already have:
Hodgman's harmonica
Chester's cutoffs

What about everyone else?

Edit - also, if you want someone else to distribute the loot you should prolly tell us which bits of equipment you already have so you don't end up with doubles Tyred :P
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Galeesa on October 04, 2010, 02:06:58 pm
i'm perfectly content with the nailbat as it's the only one i need to finish all three outfits i have have :p
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: GPH on October 04, 2010, 05:27:52 pm
...not sure if I misunderstood you Gal but all three items you need to finish outfits dropped this run :P
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Tyred on October 04, 2010, 09:49:51 pm
I have nothing of anything.
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Galeesa on October 06, 2010, 09:35:40 pm
the nailbat is the only piece i need... i have all three pieces to both the zombo and hodgeman sets after the last loot distrubition. (:
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: GPH on October 07, 2010, 06:00:55 pm
Ooooh right :P I assumed you'd updated your post to what you currently had :P

Gal: Frostys Nailbat
GPH: Frostys arm, Scratchs Stovepipe Hat
Tyred: Everything else :P
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Galeesa on October 25, 2010, 01:30:51 am
So far one of my favorite Hobo runs :)  Not only have I finally got down to business farming hobo nickels and managed to aquire my very own Hobo Monkey 8) And to top it all off I received a Dead Guy's Piece of Double Sided Tape from the I, Refuse adv in the Heap... which I promptly took and turned into a Dead Guy's Momento. :D So I'm rather excited to see what else this run brings... hope my luck continues to hold out
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: GPH on December 10, 2010, 09:08:41 pm
Current run do not want due to already having:

Hodgman's garbage sticker
Ol' Scratch's ol' britches
Chester's cutoffs
Frosty's snowball sack

Anything else is fine, with a preference for the sunglasses/porkpie hat :P
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Tyred on December 12, 2010, 02:46:36 pm
I see how it is. A guy gets stuck in the cage, and everyone else just takes advantage of that. They don't think in the least about saving him or anything. No, he's got to chew his way out and burn up some adventures! :P!
Title: Re: Hobopolis Run?
Post by: Galeesa on December 12, 2010, 04:46:19 pm
we really should try to coordinate the sewers just once and see how much easier it would be :P